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Post by eeeeef on Nov 22, 2020 18:24:58 GMT
Yeah... It is only ever effective in missions where you have to build a static defense And these are extremely rare in ET games. Maybe only one mission out of 10 is a defensive one... Out of 24 1939 missions there are actually 9 missions that I consider defensive missions and 100% of them are from the allied side
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Post by stoic on Nov 22, 2020 19:03:25 GMT
And these are extremely rare in ET games. Maybe only one mission out of 10 is a defensive one... Out of 24 1939 missions there are actually 9 missions that I consider defensive missions and 100% of them are from the allied side Some of those missions are defensive only by name though, since they have different conditions like: "capture this, kill that". Like the last one, for example. The primary objective is to hold Athens but we have to take a fortified city as our first task on the other side of the map...
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 22, 2020 19:06:51 GMT
Out of 24 1939 missions there are actually 9 missions that I consider defensive missions and 100% of them are from the allied side Some of those missions are defensive only by name though, since they have different conditions like: "capture this, kill that". Like the last one, for example. The primary objective is to hold Athens but we have to take a fortified city as our first task on the other side of the map... Good point. For a portion of the defensive missions there are objectives that require us to be on the offensive and therefore a static defense is not ideal
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 23, 2020 6:13:49 GMT
Btw stoic what generals have you purchased so far and how far are you in the campaign?
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Post by kanue on Nov 23, 2020 7:04:41 GMT
To be honest, I am quite excited about the possibilities that infantry gens can do in GoG3. But, in term of sheer force, tanks are way to go. I mean I would not use Yamashita to fight Guderian on heavy tank head on even he is commanding an anti-armor troop. So, at least from what I see now, tank gens should be the main offensive force and infantry gen will be the support. I am not saying that the supporting role is less important, though.
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2020 11:30:41 GMT
Btw stoic what generals have you purchased so far and how far are you in the campaign? I purchased Rokossovsky and completed Soviet campaigns with him. Now I am going to buy either Govorov (to see how good Artillery may be) or Vatutin (who was my work horse in all ET games). Then I will buy Rommel. If possible I won't buy Guderian at all, because I like to create artificial difficulties for myself So, the question is still open who will be my second tank general on Axis side... My next step depends on whether I can complete German campaign with Rommel alone or not.
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2020 11:49:37 GMT
To be honest, I am quite excited about the possibilities that infantry gens can do in GoG3. But, in term of sheer force, tanks are way to go. I mean I would not use Yamashita to fight Guderian on heavy tank head on even he is commanding an anti-armor troop. So, at least from what I see now, tank gens should be the main offensive force and infantry gen will be the support. I am not saying that the supporting role is less important, though. I think your suggestion about Dowding is full of sense... He is a decent Infantry general and excellent carrier Commander,while being the best Air force general in the game at the same time...
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 23, 2020 11:53:14 GMT
To be honest, I am quite excited about the possibilities that infantry gens can do in GoG3. But, in term of sheer force, tanks are way to go. I mean I would not use Yamashita to fight Guderian on heavy tank head on even he is commanding an anti-armor troop. So, at least from what I see now, tank gens should be the main offensive force and infantry gen will be the support. I am not saying that the supporting role is less important, though. I think your suggestion about Dowding is full of sense... He is a decent Infantry general and excellent carrier Commander,while being the best Air force general in the game at the same time... How ever keselring and halsey have air aura greatly boosting their output to being onparr with dowding
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Post by stoic on Nov 23, 2020 12:02:00 GMT
I think your suggestion about Dowding is full of sense... He is a decent Infantry general and excellent carrier Commander,while being the best Air force general in the game at the same time... How ever keselring and halsey have air aura greatly boosting their output to being onparr with dowding It is really interesting to see how it works, because in WC 4 some promising Air force skills didn't work properly...
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Post by kanue on Nov 23, 2020 15:31:55 GMT
I think your suggestion about Dowding is full of sense... He is a decent Infantry general and excellent carrier Commander,while being the best Air force general in the game at the same time... How ever keselring and halsey have air aura greatly boosting their output to being onparr with dowding I also think that Kesseling is better but he is not on Allied side. He is even better than Yamamoto, imo. Kesseling is almost as good as Yamamoto on aircraft carrier but much better on land. Halsey is no good on any land units. Dowding is a good enough infantry. As long as there is an airport, you can just jump round having your morale on high.
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 23, 2020 15:35:52 GMT
How ever keselring and halsey have air aura greatly boosting their output to being onparr with dowding I also think that Kesseling is better but he is not on Allied side. He is even better than Yamamoto, imo. Kesseling is almost as good as Yamamoto on aircraft carrier but much better on land. Halsey is no good on any land units. Dowding is a good enough infantry. As long as there is an airport, you can just jump round having your morale on high. Halsey basically trades some air power and infantry utility for navy power and price which isn't a worthwhile trade in my opinion but he is still an option if you need a weaker allied yamamoto
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Post by kanue on Nov 23, 2020 15:38:51 GMT
To be honest, I am quite excited about the possibilities that infantry gens can do in GoG3. But, in term of sheer force, tanks are way to go. I mean I would not use Yamashita to fight Guderian on heavy tank head on even he is commanding an anti-armor troop. So, at least from what I see now, tank gens should be the main offensive force and infantry gen will be the support. I am not saying that the supporting role is less important, though. I think your suggestion about Dowding is full of sense... He is a decent Infantry general and excellent carrier Commander,while being the best Air force general in the game at the same time... So far, I am very happy with my choice on Dowding. When we get Timo and Chuikov, at least, we have a line up that is ready for any function (not including submarine, I guess). Dowding's Dive Bombing seems very useful too. Combine that with flanking, I did easily disable strong enemy generals a few times.
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 23, 2020 15:41:44 GMT
I think your suggestion about Dowding is full of sense... He is a decent Infantry general and excellent carrier Commander,while being the best Air force general in the game at the same time... So far, I am very happy with my choice on Dowding. When we get Timo and Chuikov, at least, we have a line up that is ready for any function (not including submarine, I guess). Dowding's Dive Bombing seems very useful too. Combine that with flanking, I did easily disable strong enemy generals a few times. Would you recommend him as player's first general? Or would you rather pick someone else?
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Post by Uranus on Nov 23, 2020 16:25:17 GMT
For me, I bought Guderian. I'll likely get an allied general next seeing as I'm struggling more with that side of the missions in 1939. Who would be a good allied general though?
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Post by eeeeef on Nov 23, 2020 16:27:53 GMT
For me, I bought Guderian. I'll likely get an allied general next seeing as I'm struggling more with that side of the missions in 1939. Who would be a good allied general though? I'd say montgomery is the best long term option however options such as dowding, rokkosovsky, vatutin, konev, and govorov are popular first allied generals
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