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Post by naveenhanza on Aug 3, 2021 5:35:31 GMT
I was confused on buying the better tank general, so I did a test using cloud/save function, 1) Montgomery on heavy tanks, I) I used him several battles and I was disappointed seeing his panzer leader didn't work as often. II) His Machinist is bad, considering heavy tanks are hard to resupply and if logistics allows, buying a stack is better. And I use heavy tanks as artillery and imo they are not supposed to take damages often. III) Ace forces are bad for tanks. IV) Air power maybe useful but Arnold is there for me.
My experience with him was ok but not good and he is expensive.
2) Rokossovsky I) He is good on KV6 heavy tank than a medium tank. II) Panzer leader worked quite often III) He also did good damage to Tanks.
But his damage is very inconsistent, sometimes he did 80-90 damage and sometimes as low as 40 direct damage. And Machinist is bad.
3) Vatutin I) He did pretty well on Medium tank than on heavy tanks(when compared to Patton) II) Had better damage output than other two. III) He is also relatively cheaper
And moreover, he won me operation Cobra and worked pretty decently.
Now, I find Vatutin is not very good, he deals pretty good damage on medium tanks, but dies quickly and his lack of movement is a bit of annoying. And, he may have won me operation Cobra because I changed my approach to second sub objective.
And my tests maybe not complete and lacking in some areas.
However, I like to know how was your experience with them.
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Post by Nhyjj on Aug 3, 2021 5:45:13 GMT
naveenhanza , I personally prefer Rokossovsky. The only problem is that no one can agree with each other on this subject. The Rokossovsky Stans says that he’s better, the Montgomery Stans says he’s better and the Vatutin Stans says he’s better. You’ll never get an “everyone agrees result”. Pick the one you prefer and don’t forget... ROKOSSOVSKY IS THE BEST
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 3, 2021 5:52:29 GMT
I already had 3 of them and i could say that Monty is better (i'm not saying best due to him almost stalemate with Roko). Why Monty is good? Well his PL always trigger unlike Roko (Now idk why your Monty's PL rarely trigger) his machinist useful for Army Group Mode. For Ace Forces this skill bad ngl. He is combination of Vatutin and Roko tho. Fast and huge output. Roko always use him if i need 2nd heavy tanker or Bored with Monty. Same as Monty but lower damage and machinist but has better skill. Vatutin, fast die, slow but high damage. Vatutin is great for Mtank since he doesn't has PL for Heavy tanker but at the same time he will die faster due to not having Blitz
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Aug 3, 2021 12:59:15 GMT
I already had 3 of them and i could say that Monty is better (i'm not saying best due to him almost stalemate with Roko). Why Monty is good? Well his PL always trigger unlike Roko (Now idk why your Monty's PL rarely trigger) his machinist useful for Army Group Mode. For Ace Forces this skill bad ngl. He is combination of Vatutin and Roko tho. Fast and huge output. Roko always use him if i need 2nd heavy tanker or Bored with Monty. Same as Monty but lower damage and machinist but has better skill. Vatutin, fast die, slow but high damage. Vatutin is great for Mtank since he doesn't has PL for Heavy tanker but at the same time he will die faster due to not having Blitz They literally have the same chance to trigger, that's just you luck. AG Mode, you will be rich (at level 4) and the extra HP isn't going to matter much. And let's be real, if Vatutin dies first, that's on you they have the same on-field battle survivability. And you should NEVER use Heavy tank generals on mediums.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 3, 2021 13:16:38 GMT
IMO, PL is a necessity for an OP KV-6er. Then it comes down to 1 star tank, 3 stars air, level one Machinist, and level two Ace Forces versus Level two Anti-Armor. I chose the first, because he also is great for medal grinding, particularly when you have Patton, as you do.
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Post by puchao on Aug 3, 2021 13:50:49 GMT
Don't consider air stars, most of the times you wont move your heavy tank to the airport, and if you do then something is wrong..(in the few cases you HAVE to move your HT to an airport, still nathing secures that you will use the planes, for example lack of money, unnecessary moment or priorities)
Machinist isn't that bad as you make look it, buying other HT stack is really expensive, I find more useful to ALMOST fully heal for a cheaper price. In the case of Rommel, for example, when he has low health I need to keep him out or safe of the fight for a while till I get the 50 gold, whit monty or roko they can keep fighting constantly for only 25.
Panzer leader for Monty and Roko has the same chance, if in your experience it triggered more for Roko, that's just luck.
PD: I prefer roko
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Post by randomperson on Aug 3, 2021 15:36:46 GMT
I was confused on buying the better tank general, so I did a test using cloud/save function, 1) Montgomery on heavy tanks, I) I used him several battles and I was disappointed seeing his panzer leader didn't work as often. II) His Machinist is bad, considering heavy tanks are hard to resupply and if logistics allows, buying a stack is better. And I use heavy tanks as artillery and imo they are not supposed to take damages often. III) Ace forces are bad for tanks. IV) Air power maybe useful but Arnold is there for me. My experience with him was ok but not good and he is expensive. 2) Rokossovsky I) He is good on KV6 heavy tank than a medium tank. II) Panzer leader worked quite often III) He also did good damage to Tanks. But his damage is very inconsistent, sometimes he did 80-90 damage and sometimes as low as 40 direct damage. And Machinist is bad. 3) Vatutin I) He did pretty well on Medium tank than on heavy tanks(when compared to Patton) II) Had better damage output than other two. III) He is also relatively cheaper And moreover, he won me operation Cobra and worked pretty decently. Now, I find Vatutin is not very good, he deals pretty good damage on medium tanks, but dies quickly and his lack of movement is a bit of annoying. And, he may have won me operation Cobra because I changed my approach to second sub objective. And my tests maybe not complete and lacking in some areas. However, I like to know how was your experience with them. Panzer leader should work the same often on Monty and Roko. Either you got unlucky with Monty and lucky with Roko, or your game is bugged. I think the former is more likely to be true. Mechanist is not that bad because consider that if your tank is at half hp or lower, you will do half damage. If you replenish, you will do full damage. If you buy another stack, you will still only do full damage. But, you will not always have the money to buy another stack so replenishing is quite useful. Vatutin does have better output, but he lacks panzer leader which is bad because statistically, panzer leader is better than Tide of Iron. The good thing with Vatutin is that you don't have to think as much and you can pretty much just shoot whatever. Monty and Roko have a higher skill cap, but are overall better when in the hands of a skilled player. Summery: Vatutin is easier to use and better for a beginner. Monty/Roko are harder to use, but better if you are a good player. Monty and Roko pretty much tied although Monty costs 100 medals more. Personally, I went for Monty because he is in more theaters so he can hopefully make back the 100 medals eventually.
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 3, 2021 23:03:10 GMT
They literally have the same chance to trigger, that's just you luck. AG Mode, you will be rich (at level 4) and the extra HP isn't going to matter much. And let's be real, if Vatutin dies first, that's on you they have the same on-field battle survivability. And you should NEVER use Heavy tank generals on mediums. Well my heavy tank slot has been filled with Monty and Roko so most of the time i need to put him on Mtank and he still perform good except he drain your money
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Post by Port on Aug 4, 2021 1:07:32 GMT
Vatutin, he is easy to use to cause destruction, which is the heavy tank general’s job.
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 4, 2021 1:19:40 GMT
Vatutin, he is easy to use to cause destruction, which is the heavy tank general’s job. Still even with massive output, he still need PL which is essential for Heavy Tanker
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Post by Thortilla on Aug 4, 2021 3:14:36 GMT
I was confused on buying the better tank general, so I did a test using cloud/save function, 1) Montgomery on heavy tanks, I) I used him several battles and I was disappointed seeing his panzer leader didn't work as often. II) His Machinist is bad, considering heavy tanks are hard to resupply and if logistics allows, buying a stack is better. And I use heavy tanks as artillery and imo they are not supposed to take damages often. III) Ace forces are bad for tanks. IV) Air power maybe useful but Arnold is there for me. My experience with him was ok but not good and he is expensive. 2) Rokossovsky I) He is good on KV6 heavy tank than a medium tank. II) Panzer leader worked quite often III) He also did good damage to Tanks. But his damage is very inconsistent, sometimes he did 80-90 damage and sometimes as low as 40 direct damage. And Machinist is bad. 3) Vatutin I) He did pretty well on Medium tank than on heavy tanks(when compared to Patton) II) Had better damage output than other two. III) He is also relatively cheaper And moreover, he won me operation Cobra and worked pretty decently. Now, I find Vatutin is not very good, he deals pretty good damage on medium tanks, but dies quickly and his lack of movement is a bit of annoying. And, he may have won me operation Cobra because I changed my approach to second sub objective. And my tests maybe not complete and lacking in some areas. However, I like to know how was your experience with them. Dont Ask go Towards Roko he is Life he is Love
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Post by Thortilla on Aug 4, 2021 3:35:42 GMT
Quality people know the best of the best
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Post by Nhyjj on Aug 4, 2021 4:01:45 GMT
Quality people know the best of the best That’s my brother. *Realizes how weird it sounded*
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Post by naveenhanza on Aug 4, 2021 8:47:54 GMT
I restarted the game today, I am pretty comfortable with the Axis lineup,
Now I need to know who would be better as a first allied tank general, Then who would be better to synergize with the former?
I need to know the best Allied tank duo.
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Post by Nhyjj on Aug 4, 2021 14:06:32 GMT
I restarted the game today, I am pretty comfortable with the Axis lineup, Now I need to know who would be better as a first allied tank general, Then who would be better to synergize with the former? I need to know the best Allied tank duo. Roko on KV6 and Patton on KV2
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