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Post by randomperson on Aug 4, 2021 16:55:27 GMT
I restarted the game today, I am pretty comfortable with the Axis lineup, Now I need to know who would be better as a first allied tank general, Then who would be better to synergize with the former? I need to know the best Allied tank duo. Roko on KV6 and Patton on KV2 I have used Patton for a while and honestly he is pretty underwhelming. I got Guderian first so Patton just seems really weak compared to him. There is no alternative to Patton so you have to get him, but he is really disappointing compared to his counterpart Guderian. |
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Post by Port on Aug 4, 2021 20:55:51 GMT
Vatutin, he is easy to use to cause destruction, which is the heavy tank general’s job. Still even with massive output, he still need PL which is essential for Heavy Tanker Then why not just use Leclerc? He is free after all and has Panzer Leader. |
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 4, 2021 22:45:57 GMT
Still even with massive output, he still need PL which is essential for Heavy Tanker Then why not just use Leclerc? He is free after all and has Panzer Leader. Good idea. I'll try it and compare him and vatutin |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 6, 2021 3:40:29 GMT
Here comes someone shouting Vatutin in middle of Roko/Monty debate : VVVVVVVAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
He deals more damage and is cheaper. That's it. Case closed.
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Post by Port on Aug 6, 2021 19:37:19 GMT
Here comes someone shouting Vatutin in middle of Roko/Monty debate : VVVVVVVAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!! He deals more damage and is cheaper. That's it. Case closed. Yes, thank you. |
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Post by naveenhanza on Aug 7, 2021 5:40:24 GMT
Guys,
If you can buy only one Allied Tank general. Who will you go for?
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Post by 曹操 on Aug 7, 2021 5:56:20 GMT
Guys, If you can buy only one Allied Tank general. Who will you go for? Obviously Patton. he can be mtank gen since he has Blitz while Timo goes for Htank or he can be Htank gen since he has PL |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 9:00:56 GMT
Guys, If you can buy only one Allied Tank general. Who will you go for? Obviously Patton. he can be mtank gen since he has Blitz while Timo goes for Htank or he can be Htank gen since he has PL Vatutin |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 9:01:21 GMT
Whoops. Sorry, quoted wrong post.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Aug 7, 2021 9:52:47 GMT
Guys, If you can buy only one Allied Tank general. Who will you go for? Rokossovsky |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 7, 2021 12:31:45 GMT
Guys, If you can buy only one Allied Tank general. Who will you go for? Monty. No question. Patton's Blitz is near useless, and Vatutin is weak in that he Lacks PL on a KV-6er, so while he is by far the best when he goes Solo, Monty is better in Team play. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 7, 2021 12:50:24 GMT
Guys, If you can buy only one Allied Tank general. Who will you go for? Monty. No question. Patton's Blitz is near useless, and Vatutin is weak in that he Lacks PL on a KV-6er, so while he is by far the best when he goes Solo, Monty is better in Team play. How come not having PL makes Vatutin weak? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 7, 2021 13:28:26 GMT
Monty. No question. Patton's Blitz is near useless, and Vatutin is weak in that he Lacks PL on a KV-6er, so while he is by far the best when he goes Solo, Monty is better in Team play. How come not having PL makes Vatutin weak? Here's why: you are going to give your main tanker the KV-6 whoever you choose. Now, if there is nobody with him, Vatutin can one-shot infantry with it, and get a reload. Then he can attack again and whoever he hits in splash damage, he gets another reload. Now on Average, he will be able to shoot around 3 times. Now, say Monty is coming. He won't be able to get that first reload by himself, unless his PL triggers. But if another unit, say a med tank, comes and does the first shot, then he can get those reloads, 4 times on Average. Despite not doing as much Damage per shot, his entire damage goes up. In addition, Monty can saunter into a factory that his allies help Crack and he takes, and he can almost fill his entire stack with one replenish. That's why I prefer Monty. (Also, He's decent as a second Carrier gen.) |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Aug 7, 2021 15:15:31 GMT
How come not having PL makes Vatutin weak? Here's why: you are going to give your main tanker the KV-6 whoever you choose. Now, if there is nobody with him, Vatutin can one-shot infantry with it, and get a reload. Then he can attack again and whoever he hits in splash damage, he gets another reload. Now on Average, he will be able to shoot around 3 times. Now, say Monty is coming. He won't be able to get that first reload by himself, unless his PL triggers. But if another unit, say a med tank, comes and does the first shot, then he can get those reloads, 4 times on Average. Despite not doing as much Damage per shot, his entire damage goes up. In addition, Monty can saunter into a factory that his allies help Crack and he takes, and he can almost fill his entire stack with one replenish. That's why I prefer Monty. (Also, He's decent as a second Carrier gen.) Meet Rokossovsky. He has everything Monty has in skills, but replaces the trash Ace Forces with the great Anti-Armor, as HTs and arty are the main threats to HTs. He might have one less star, but Anti-Armor makes up for that. Machinist is so bad being half worse than Monty's Machinist is redundant. And Roko is cheaper. And air *s aren't going to be useful on land, and you will already have air covered with Arnold, a second carrier gen without carrier skills is once again, redundant. And according to my calculations, if Monty and Roko hit each type of unit once, Roko would have the most ouput, just by sheer power against a main enemy, the tank. Now I'm not saying Monty is useless, I understand why you would want him, such as in '44, where he doesn't take up a slot. But I believe IMO, that Roko is better. Now about Vatutin. I was considering him as my 1st Allied general, but I decided against it for one and only one reason: He is slow. The KV-6 can reduce the burn, but once that dies, you will be frustrated at HT's pretty slow speed. He may be a good Medium tank general, but Patton can fill that well. And 3*s in HP doesn't help with competitors offering 4*s in HP. I need more input if Patton is better than Vatutin in Mediums, but general talk is that Patton is better, so Vatutin's only real job is HTs if you have a godly tanky buffed KV-6. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 7, 2021 15:31:14 GMT
Here's why: you are going to give your main tanker the KV-6 whoever you choose. Now, if there is nobody with him, Vatutin can one-shot infantry with it, and get a reload. Then he can attack again and whoever he hits in splash damage, he gets another reload. Now on Average, he will be able to shoot around 3 times. Now, say Monty is coming. He won't be able to get that first reload by himself, unless his PL triggers. But if another unit, say a med tank, comes and does the first shot, then he can get those reloads, 4 times on Average. Despite not doing as much Damage per shot, his entire damage goes up. In addition, Monty can saunter into a factory that his allies help Crack and he takes, and he can almost fill his entire stack with one replenish. That's why I prefer Monty. (Also, He's decent as a second Carrier gen.) Meet Rokossovsky. He has everything Monty has in skills, but replaces the trash Ace Forces with the great Anti-Armor, as HTs and arty are the main threats to HTs. He might have one less star, but Anti-Armor makes up for that. Machinist is so bad being half worse than Monty's Machinist is redundant. And Roko is cheaper. And air *s aren't going to be useful on land, and you will already have air covered with Arnold, a second carrier gen without carrier skills is once again, redundant. And according to my calculations, if Monty and Roko hit each type of unit once, Roko would have the most ouput, just by sheer power against a main enemy, the tank. Now I'm not saying Monty is useless, I understand why you would want him, such as in '44, where he doesn't take up a slot. But I believe IMO, that Roko is better. Now about Vatutin. I was considering him as my 1st Allied general, but I decided against it for one and only one reason: He is slow. The KV-6 can reduce the burn, but once that dies, you will be frustrated at HT's pretty slow speed. He may be a good Medium tank general, but Patton can fill that well. And 3*s in HP doesn't help with competitors offering 4*s in HP. I need more input if Patton is better than Vatutin in Mediums, but general talk is that Patton is better, so Vatutin's only real job is HTs if you have a godly tanky buffed KV-6. Yes, HT and Arty are Main HT threats, which is exactly why Anti-Armor is Poor. If you want to Attack an HT, then you will lose significant amounts of health. Air stars are situationally useful, and seriously? You hate Machinist? It's like a weaker Leadership on an HT. Very useful because HTs are very expensive. About Vatutin: Tanks are Fast as is. His speed (or lack thereof) is not really necessary. Really, speed in general should not be a defining point in choosing them. |
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