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Post by Mr. Beast on Jul 28, 2020 13:29:25 GMT
Mr. Beast , Fantastic list great work! But from a VERY personal stand point Bock should be in the green, since Bock is a half decent general with skills just short of Guderian, while it can also be purchased at beginning or at the end for defensive purposes. The only draw backs is the price otherwise it is much better than Messe. And yes, he is my favorite general sure. I’ll change Bock. The only problem with him is the lack of Armored Assault but plain fighting kind of makes up for it. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 28, 2020 15:09:49 GMT
Personally I wouldn't put Mannerheim as high as light blue. Mannerheim has elastic defense. Enough said (jk).
Jungle fighting's ok, and Raider's good, so that gives him a maximum of two and a half good skills. He also only has two (max 3) mobility stars, and since mobility is crucial for cannon fodder troops to avoid getting squashed by tanks, that doesn't help him very much. He should be below Yamashita and Rundstedt in terms of quality.
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jul 28, 2020 15:41:36 GMT
Personally I wouldn't put Mannerheim as high as light blue. Mannerheim has elastic defense. Enough said (jk). Jungle fighting's ok, and Raider's good, so that gives him a maximum of two and a half good skills. He also only has two (max 3) mobility stars, and since mobility is crucial for cannon fodder troops to avoid getting squashed by tanks, that doesn't help him very much. He should be below Yamashita and Rundstedt in terms of quality. I agree that he's worse than Yamashita but not Rundstedt. Well infantry already has high mobility and Rundstedt also has the same mobility as him so that doesn't matter much. What I like the most about Mannerheim is his insane damage without having much medals spent on him. He starts off with lvl 3 raider while Rundstedt doesn't even have it. When both are maxed, Mannerheim will be doing way more damage due to his jungle fighting. Rundstedt has city fighting and elastic defense which is terrible for infantry. Mannerheim has jungle and elastic. Elastic is terrible but jungle is very useful especially on jungle commandoes. Rundstedt needs Raider so that leaves him with one skill like Mannerheim. Since Mannerheim can have more offensive skills (exactly what infantry needs), he's better. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 28, 2020 15:46:56 GMT
I agree that he's worse than Yamashita but not Rundstedt. Well infantry already has high mobility and Rundstedt also has the same mobility as him so that doesn't matter much. What I like the most about Mannerheim is his insane damage without having much medals spent on him. He starts off with lvl 3 raider while Rundstedt doesn't even have it. When both are maxed, Mannerheim will be doing way more damage due to his jungle fighting. Rundstedt has city fighting and elastic defense which is terrible for infantry. Mannerheim has jungle and elastic. Elastic is terrible but jungle is very useful especially on jungle commandoes. Rundstedt needs Raider so that leaves him with one skill like Mannerheim. Since Mannerheim can have more offensive skills (exactly what infantry needs), he's better. Oh yeah, I forgot about Rundstedt's trash skills lol. Could you make Rundstedt green then? Cause he really isn't that useful outside of a few domination missions and invasion rewards. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jul 28, 2020 15:55:41 GMT
I agree that he's worse than Yamashita but not Rundstedt. Well infantry already has high mobility and Rundstedt also has the same mobility as him so that doesn't matter much. What I like the most about Mannerheim is his insane damage without having much medals spent on him. He starts off with lvl 3 raider while Rundstedt doesn't even have it. When both are maxed, Mannerheim will be doing way more damage due to his jungle fighting. Rundstedt has city fighting and elastic defense which is terrible for infantry. Mannerheim has jungle and elastic. Elastic is terrible but jungle is very useful especially on jungle commandoes. Rundstedt needs Raider so that leaves him with one skill like Mannerheim. Since Mannerheim can have more offensive skills (exactly what infantry needs), he's better. Oh yeah, I forgot about Rundstedt's trash skills lol. Could you make Rundstedt green then? Cause he really isn't that useful outside of a few domination missions and invasion rewards. Sure but his price really appeals to many other people. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 28, 2020 18:18:11 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot about Rundstedt's trash skills lol. Could you make Rundstedt green then? Cause he really isn't that useful outside of a few domination missions and invasion rewards. Sure but his price really appeals to many other people. But... but bad... I'd rather buy Messe cause he's 700 medals cheaper. Or even Konev is a really good hybrid. But it's up to you. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jul 29, 2020 15:30:48 GMT
Would you consider Guerilla and/or crossfire to be good or decent infantry general skills? Or are they both trash? I'm gonna use this for an in-depth analysis.
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jul 29, 2020 18:05:57 GMT
Would you consider Guerilla and/or crossfire to be good or decent infantry general skills? Or are they both trash? I'm gonna use this for an in-depth analysis. Guerilla is very useful but not necessary. Crossfire is just trash |
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Post by saga on Jan 24, 2024 0:04:07 GMT
Now that more general added can you guys update this thread? It would help the beginner a lot
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Post by journeykeen on Jan 24, 2024 0:31:48 GMT
Now that more general added can you guys update this thread? It would help the beginner a lot Do you have any specific questions? |
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Post by stoic on Jan 24, 2024 3:27:52 GMT
Now that more general added can you guys update this thread? It would help the beginner a lot Unfortunately, quite often these threads don't reflect the current state of affairs. Moreover, quite often they represent personal opinions of authors, sometimes ill-founded or dubious at best. So, it is pointless to update such threads. It is better to create a new one. Better by players who already completed the game and know what they are talking about  |
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Post by George Rudi on Jan 24, 2024 4:16:21 GMT
Now that more general added can you guys update this thread? It would help the beginner a lot Unfortunately, quite often these threads don't reflect the current state of affairs. Moreover, quite often they represent personal opinions of authors, sometimes ill-founded or dubious at best. So, it is pointless to update such threads. It is better to create a new one. Better by players who already completed the game and know what they are talking about I recommend Erich von Manstein, journeykeen, jonblend, or Darth Nihilus to make a new one 🤭 |
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Post by stoic on Jan 24, 2024 7:34:16 GMT
Unfortunately, quite often these threads don't reflect the current state of affairs. Moreover, quite often they represent personal opinions of authors, sometimes ill-founded or dubious at best. So, it is pointless to update such threads. It is better to create a new one. Better by players who already completed the game and know what they are talking about I recommend Erich von Manstein, journeykeen, jonblend, or Darth Nihilus to make a new one 🤭 I can only hope they share your enthusiasm  A lot of writing, you know |
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Post by yesildal on Jan 24, 2024 9:33:37 GMT
I can only hope they share your enthusiasm A lot of writing, you know Dear Stoic, I think this is not the place, but I want to ask, I am having difficulty in the 1939 conquest, where can I find the current guides? My generals: Pavlov, messe, leeb, horton. leeb's rumor is lvl 3, others are left untouched. I apologize if there are any mistakes, I used a translator. Thanks. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 24, 2024 10:10:45 GMT
I can only hope they share your enthusiasm A lot of writing, you know Dear Stoic, I think this is not the place, but I want to ask, I am having difficulty in the 1939 conquest, where can I find the current guides? My generals: Pavlov, messe, leeb, horton. leeb's rumor is lvl 3, others are left untouched. I apologize if there are any mistakes, I used a translator. Thanks. I can't answer your questions, unfortunately, because when I completed the game several years ago it was a completely different game than we have it now, so the players mentioned above are more qualified to give a good advice than I am. I can admit that WC4 conquests are a bit difficult for new players. So, I can only give you a general direction: 1) Be prepared for a long conquest, don't think that your allies get things done. They won't help you much. 2) There is only one way to avoid a bloodbath, namely a Blitzkrieg, a Lightening war when your team steamroll all opponents. But obviously you can't do it at the moment. So, it will be a difficult fight and, unfortunately, you can't do much about it. 3) Still you can do something. Prepare your team. First and foremost upgrade your technology tree as far as you can. Especially Tank and Artillery brunches. 4) Choose a nation wisely. Try minor players like Egypt, Romania, Finland when you can rapidly steal cities from opponents who are busy in fighting elsewhere. Or, on the contrary, try heavyweight players like USSR or Germany instead when you have some good generals at your disposal and plenty of resources. 5) Use aviation strikes and paratroopers whenever you can. You can steal a significant number of cities with weak defense in such way. I am sure that our moderators Erich von Manstein and Nobunaga Oda will direct you to proper guides (is there are any). And there isn't any need to apologize. There are players here from all over the world and for majority of us English is not a mother tongue Good luck 👍 |
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