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Post by NetherFreek on Feb 1, 2018 11:52:19 GMT
Major Infantry 2 (5) Artillery 2 (2) Tank 3 (4) Air 2 (2) Navy 0 (3) Movement 2 (3) Elastic Defense lvl1 Mountain Fighting lvl1 Crossfire lvl2 Price 635 Quick Navigation
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 2, 2018 2:06:19 GMT
Messe is cheaper, has better stars in tank (the MOST important troop type in WC4) & has better skills.
In fact, Messe has a bonus inf & navy star to match.
Sure Messe loses out on arty & movement, but why pay more for Bagramyan when Messe does better overall?
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 17, 2018 3:43:21 GMT
At least he's not the worst, but he is the 2nd worst.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 17, 2018 12:28:07 GMT
At least he's not the worst, but he is the 2nd worst. Who is the worst? Zhu D?
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 17, 2018 22:31:05 GMT
At least he's not the worst, but he is the 2nd worst. Who is the worst? Zhu D? Idk.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 17, 2018 23:20:07 GMT
Lmao. You just know he is the 2nd worst. Touché. While he isn’t really really bad, as tanks are good in this game, he doesn’t offer a lot for his price. Your just putting a face on a super tank by buying him.
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 18, 2018 0:55:12 GMT
Lmao. You just know he is the 2nd worst. Touché. While he isn’t really really bad, as tanks are good in this game, he doesn’t offer a lot for his price. Your just putting a face on a super tank by buying him. Actually, i was joking. lol
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 20, 2018 15:23:12 GMT
This guy was a god in wc3. He made capturing turkey easy as the soviets in 1950 as well capturing berlin in the 1960s. Now look at him.
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Post by Fedor von Bock on Dec 12, 2018 22:30:32 GMT
Your just putting a face on a super tank by buying him. I remember the nightmare of him being in super heavies everytime in wc3. and he is as annoying as Tito (as well in wc3)
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 14, 2018 7:10:31 GMT
well both him and tito are indeed heavily nerfed in this game.
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Post by Gone on Jun 23, 2019 3:28:42 GMT
Could be decent if he was silver-tier. He could be given his fifth Infantry star, his Mountain Fighting skill maxed and Raider. His output with the Mountain Commandos would be huge. Sadly, that’s not reality. He would be a beast in mountainous areas, and a nice general to use when playing as Greece.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 23, 2019 10:36:56 GMT
Could be decent if he was silver-tier. He could be given his fifth Infantry star, his Mountain Fighting skill maxed and Raider. His output with the Mountain Commandos would be huge. Sadly, that’s not reality. He would be a beast in mountainous areas, and a nice general to use when playing as Greece. Then just get graziani Tbh Bagramyan is very annoying in 1950 if you try our south korea speed runs
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Post by Gone on Jun 23, 2019 21:07:30 GMT
I prefer Rommel, thanks.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 24, 2019 4:29:52 GMT
deserts' occurence rate are about the same as mountains, just that most missions and campaigns are more likely to have deserts
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Post by Gone on Jun 24, 2019 5:24:37 GMT
Rommel is useful outside of deserts, and he is excellent to conquer Africa during Conquest.
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